Tuesday 31 May 2011

Fighting Sectarianism With One Eye Closed.


When the subject of Sectarianism, or religious bigotry is aired in Glasgow, rarely, if ever does the subject of segregated schooling come under any level of scrutiny, despite those at the sharp end of such Projects as Sense over Sectarianism, or Nil By Mouth recounting their experiences of segregated education as a contributory factor towards Sectarianism

Alison Logan (Sense over Sectarianism)

"When I was a child I went to Craigbank Secondary School, as it was then, and the Catholic school Bellarmine was close by and there was always tension. "Part of that was territorial, but a lot of it was about 'we're us and they're them'. It was that Catholic/Protestant divide.”

Helen Miller (Nil By Mouth), 2003

“NIL BY MOUTH has stepped up its fight against bigotry in Scotland by appointing its first co-ordinator, Northern Ireland-born Helen Miller, who understands the issues only too well. SHEILA HAMILTON reports…..

….For most of her childhood, Helen, too, accepted the status quo. She was born and brought up in Coleraine, County Derry, and was 15 before she got to know young people from the same town who were from "the other side".

"It was segregated schools, segregated buses, segregated youth clubs," she shrugged. "You go to church and all the youth clubs are linked to that church and you never met any children from the other community."

The real shame is that sinister forces forced a position shift from Miller a year later in November 2004, following an interview on BBC Radio Scotland with NbM Trustee Peter McLean, who formerly worked for Celtic Football Club, wrote for the Catholic Herald and worked as spokesman for Cardinal Winning at Glasgow’s Archdiocese.

With regards to your comments on the joint campus issue in North Lanarkshire, Nil by Mouth strongly support the principle of joint campus schools. We believe that joint campus schools can help to address the separation that currently exists in some communities. Joint campus schools give children from different religious and cultural backgrounds the opportunity to mix together and in a country where we have a diversity of faiths and a tradition of denominational schools, joint campus schools offer a way forward where religious diversity can be maintained in an inclusive and respectful environment.

Since joint campus schools are a relatively new phenomenon in Scotland Nil by Mouth recognise that there will be problems in the early stages as has been evident in North Lanarkshire. However, joint campus schools are going ahead in North Lanarkshire and this is something that Nil by Mouth view as positive. As the programme develops and teachers, children and parents settle into the new system they may decided to make changes in staff rooms, gates etc but for now the local authority appears to have consulted and negotiated a compromise to implement change the joint campus programme as sensitively as possible.

Remember, that this is the “joint campus” in my previous post, where the RC Church fought against any shared aspect that would have resulted in children of different faiths actually talking to each other.

Quite what prompted the shift one will never know, but the untainted quote straight from her experiences compared with a policy of segregation cloaked under “joint” branding is radically different. I wonder why.

DJM

Sunday 29 May 2011

More Evidence of Celtic's IRA Support

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf2mRzUc2PA

Celtic's Sectarian Shame

This song seems to have sneaked under the radar. It's the Celtic support's disgusting homage to the Provisional IRA hunger strikers.

Unlike other Rebel songs, which apologists argue are from a "peaceful" period, this song has absolutely no defence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi5Q6EsbB-E

It has been sung with vigour this season and is now one of the most popular songs of the Celtic support, both home and away

Lyrics:

THE ROLL OF HONOUR 

Read the roll of honour for Ireland's bravest men 
We must be united in memory of the ten 
England you're a monster, don't think that you have won 
We will never be defeated while Ireland has such sons 

In those dreary H-Block cages ten brave young Irishmen lay 
Hungering for justice while their young lives ebbed away 
For their rights as Irish soldiers and to free their native land 
They stood beside their leader the gallant Bobby Sands 

Now they mourn Hughes in Bellaghy, Ray McCreish in Armagh's hill 
In those narrow streets of Derry they miss O'Hara still, 
They so proudly gave their young lives to break Britannia's hold 
Their names shall be remembered as history unfolds 

Chorus 

Through the war torn streets of Ulster the black flags did sadly wave 
To salute ten Irish martyrs, the bravest of the brave 
Joe McDonnell, Martin Hurson, Kevin Lynch, Kieran Doherty 
They gave their lives for freedom with Thomas McElwee 

Michael Devine from Derry you were the last to die 
With your nine brave companions, with the martyred dead you lie 
Your souls cry out "Remember, our deaths are not in vain 
Fight on and make our homeland a nation once again" 

Chorus

Friday 27 May 2011

Archive: Catholic Church refuse to share a Door with Non Catholics

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3916941.stm
Church blocks shared campus plans



The Roman Catholic Church has withdrawn from plans to create seven shared campuses for Catholic and non-denominational primary schools. Discussions with North Lanarkshire Council have been ongoing for the last 18 months.
But the Right Rev Joseph Devine, Bishop of Motherwell, said the church could not go ahead because of concerns the schools would lose their identity.
Council Leader Jim McCabe said he was "bemused and disappointed".

Bishop Devine said he had concluded that the council was not prepared to meet the needs of the Catholic community and guarantee the satisfactory provision of Catholic education.
The church has expressed strong opposition to having too many shared facilities and common entrances.


The bishop said: "From the outset of discussions, I expressed my deepest reservations about the council's intention to replace St Aloysius, a school of over 300 pupils, with a new building in which significant facilities would be shared with the non-denominational school."
He added: "It has now become clear that North Lanarkshire Council is not prepared to make the design changes which the diocese has sought.
"Accordingly, I have informed the council that it is pursuing a flawed policy in its determination to promote shared campus provision on this basis in these communities."
Michael McGrath, director of the Scottish Catholic Education Service, said: "When the council eventually provided the building plans, it was clear that the council was determined to maximise the provision of shared facilities."
An executive spokesman said: "The First Minister has received the letter from Bishop Joseph Devine and will reply in due course.
"The Catholic Church has asked the executive, under Section 22D of the Education (Scotland) Act 1980, to satisfy itself that North Lanarkshire's proposals for joint campuses do not represent a "significant deterioration" in the position of denominational schools and provide suitable arrangements for religious instruction of the pupils affected by the proposals.

CATHOLIC SCHOOLS AFFECTED
St Aloysius, Chapelhall
St Ignatius, Wishaw
St Mary's, Caldercruix
St David's, Plains
St Kevin's, Bargeddie
Our Lady and St Joseph, Glenboig
St Patrick's, New Stevenston

"We will therefore liaise further with North Lanarkshire Council.
Council Leader Jim McCabe said: "I am surprised and disappointed at the Bishop's announcement.
"Following my last meeting with Bishop Devine and his representatives, which was very constructive, there were real signs of a positive outcome to our discussions.
"I now find myself bemused and disappointed. However, if the Bishop wishes to discuss this matter with me further, I will make myself available."

9 Years On What's Changed? Celtic & IRA Songs

Nothing. Only the names.

Celtic seek end to 'IRA chants'
Celtic fans
The club appealed to fans to stop singing rebel songs
Celtic Football Club has made an unprecedented appeal to a "vocal minority" of its supporters to stop chanting IRA slogans during games. Ian McLeod, the club's chief executive, has written to more than 50,000 season ticket holders, asking for an end to the singing of the rebel songs.
The call comes after chanting by some Celtic fans during a minute's silence for the victims of the 11 September terrorist attacks.
In his letter, Mr McLeod urges fans not to support or condone such actions.

This action by a minority will undoubtedly lead to criticism of Celtic Football Club
Ian McLeod
Celtic chief executive

The anti-sectarian group, Nil by Mouth, has welcomed the move but spokesman Peter McLean said the Old Firm could go further and ban the bigots.
"I think it's a step in the right direction and is to be commended," he said.
"However, Nil By Mouth would like to see Celtic and Rangers both go a step further and remove 10 supporters each time sectarian singing is heard en masse.
"Ban them from the grounds and publicise their actions as a deterrent to others."
Political beliefs
Mr McLeod said the problem was most obvious among a section of the Parkhead club's away support and made specific reference to the televised game with Motherwell last week.
He criticised the perception among some that a celebration of the club's Irish roots was in itself a sectarian act.
"We are a football club first and foremost and clearly it is not our position to dictate to anyone what their political beliefs or actions should or should not be," he writes.
Celtic Park
The club is proud of its Irish roots

"However, it is equally our responsibility to ensure that the club, as a non-political organisation, retains its political independence by appealling to those who participate in such activities in the name of Celtic Football Club, to stop doing so."
The club and its fans should be proud of the Irish immigrants who helped create the club in the east end of Glasgow in 1888.
However, Mr McLeod also writes that the IRA chanting cannot be allowed to continue.
"This action by a minority will undoubtedly lead to criticism of Celtic Football Club and indeed has led to calls at Celtic Park (not for the first time) from Celtic supporters who do not share these political belifs but find themselves linked to them by association."
Campaign group
Mr McLeod said he had received many letters from concerned fans "that the club is used as a vehicle to promote political messages by this vocal minority".
Former Celtic director Michael Kelly said: "I think it's a landmark statement. The club has now been quite specific on where it stands on these political and sectarian matters.
"The club has never gone as far as this before."
In 2000 Cara Henderson, whose boyfriend was killed in a sectarian attack, teamed up with Celtic and Rangers football clubs in an attempt to end religious bigotry.
Peter McLean
Peter McLean: "Ban the culprits"

She was 16 when Celtic fan Mark Scott was stabbed to death by a complete stranger as he walked home past a Rangers pub in Glasgow.
Nil By Mouth was launched in the summer of 2000 and has since received praise from Scotland's politicians and the Old Firm clubs.
Anti-sectarian campaigner Donald Gorrie, Liberal Democrat Central Scotland MSP, said: "It is entirely appropriate that the Celtic Football Club is calling for supporters to ensure they do not support or condone the chanting of sectarian songs and slogans at matches."
Scottish National Party justice spokeswoman Roseanna Cunningham also backed Celtic's move, describing sectarianism as a "blight on Scottish society".
She called on Rangers to make a similar move and urge its supporters not to sing sectarian songs.

Archive: Bishop Admits Sectarian Problem

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/2274383.stm

Bishop admits sectarian problem
Bishop Joseph Devine
Bishop Devine said Catholic education is divisive
Catholic education is "divisive" and contributes to the problem of "sectarianism", according to a Scottish bishop. But Joseph Devine, Bishop of Motherwell, told the Sunday Herald newspaper it was sometimes "a price worth paying".
Liberal Democrat MSP Donald Gorrie has said ending Catholic schooling would help ease sectarianism north of the border.
The Scottish Executive, police chiefs, racial equality campaigners and the Old Firm clubs have met this year to discuss the problem.
Donald Gorrie
Donald Gorrie: Suggested end to segregation

Bishop Devine said: "Denominational education is an enabler of sectarianism.
"Roman Catholic schooling is divisive - sometimes it's a price worth paying.
"The Catholic community believes that with denominational schooling comes the creation of a common set of values - a coherent system that has the academic curriculum and moral and spiritual life in tandem."
Mr Gorrie said in February that "society might be better" if the Catholic schools system in Scotland was ended.
Kirk challenge
However, he said such a move could not be materialise until Catholics agreed it was the right course of action.
His comments prompted an angry reaction from John Oates, of the Catholic Education Commission.
Mr Oates said Catholic schools were the antithesis of bigotry and sectarianism, and to suggest otherwise was "insulting".
Scottish Tory MSP Brian Monteith challenged the Church of Scotland to consider promoting its own denominational schools.
Mr Monteith in June used used England as an example of a society which provided faith-based schools without the "tribal warfare" that exists north of the border.
Chants plea
Where Muslim schools exist, the relationship between different ethnic groups is far more harmonious, he said.
Last week, Celtic chief executive Ian McLeod wrote to supporters of the Glasgow club to appeal for an end to IRA chants during games.
In his letter, Mr McLeod urges fans not to support or condone such actions.
The anti-sectarian group, Nil by Mouth, has welcomed the move but spokesman Peter McLean said the Old Firm could go further and ban the bigots.

Friday 20 May 2011

Statistics - Clarity Required

A well researched piece from a Rangers site, who don't often stray in to this territory

Sectarian Statistics - Clarity Required
Written by Opportunity Knox   
Friday, 20 May 2011 14:28

Today, I will join the Roman Catholic Church in asking that the Scottish Government provide a detailed breakdown of Sectarian Crime statistics for the period 2010 to 2011.

The Church has expressed anger at the rise in Sectarian Crime in Scotland over the last 18 months.


This comes just weeks after the figures were released by the Government as referred to here.


Quite clearly, both reports are slanted to imply that the highest ratio of sectarian crime is by Protestants on Catholics, despite there being absolutely no evidence within the figures released to justify this.

Indeed, the accompanying photograph in the Herald shows the Rangers support, but carries no picture of any other grouping of people. The message is clear.

Indeed, the very appearance of an “angry” Catholic church in yesterday’s Scotsman at the recent rise in sectarian crime paints a picture. It sows the seed in your brain that the anger is due to the fact that the rise is in Anti Catholic crime.

This is a great shame, as the finger pointing on sectarianism so prevalent in Scotland in recent decades has done nothing to eradicate the problem.

Firstly, we should always put Sectarian Crime and associated offences in to perspective.
In 2010/2011 there were 693 incidents of religiously motivated crimes/offences, which is 693 too many.
In Context to the overall crime figures in Scotland though it is a miniscule problem, that is disproportionately reported in Scotland’s Media. Scotland’s total volume of reported crime and offences for the most recently reported period of 2009/2010 is 901,763 (source Scottish Government Crime Trends report).
The percentage of sectarian crime of all crime in Scotland sits at 0.077%

I’ll let that sink in.

Then repeat it.

The percentage of sectarian crime of all crime in Scotland sits at 0.077%

Right, now the picture is starting to become clearer I’ll move on.

There were more firearms offences in Scotland in 2009-2010 than Sectarian Crime (839)
There were ten times more crimes of indecency than Sectarian Crime in the period (6548)
There were six times more racially motivated crimes in Scotland than Sectarian (4513)

The reportage of sectarian crime itself is an issue.

As there has been no detailed breakdown of Sectarian Crime since the 2004-2005 period , the spin put on that set of statistics, which was misleading at the time, is becoming accepted as evidence that sectarian crime is a Protestant Problem.

Perhaps those statistics should be revisited.

Then, as now, the media allowed the RC Church to misrepresent the data, spin it, and effectively lie about the content of it.

Lets recap. In that period, there were 726 cases. Of that 726, 64% were “Anti-catholic”, and 31% were “Anti-Protestant”.

The reports that followed included the headlines “Catholics bear brunt of Sectarianism”, and “Catholics 5 times more likely than Protestants to be victims of Sectarianism”

Given that no-one bothered to add context such as religious profiling within the Population these statements were wildly inaccurate, as were counter claims that 15.9 % of the Population (Catholics) could be responsible for 31% of all sectarian crime therefore twice as likely to commit sectarian crime than Protestants.

The reality is that the vast majority of the sectarian offences and crimes took place in the West of Scotland. The population split in Glasgow and surrounding areas is closer to a 60/30/10 split, with 60% being nominally Protestant, 30% being nominally Catholic, and 10% being other, which almost exactly matches the ratio of Sectarian crime, ie that both sides are equally culpable.

What this tells you is that Sectarianism is most certainly a two way street, but that there are agendas at work both from the Catholic Church in Scotland, and from the Media to present it as an Anti Catholic agenda.

One can only wonder as to the motivation to do it.
What do they have to gain by a) talking up sectarianism, and b) distorting the picture on it?

The real shame is that the authorities’ reluctance to go in to detail allows the church and various talking heads to perpetuate an untruth, and keep the sectarianism gravy train running.

It also allows Non Catholics to be demonised, which in itself is an act of bigotry
It also allows Rangers Football club and their support to suffer as their club becomes “tarnished” by a taint that it does not deserve.

The “fight” against “Sectarianism” has upped a gear in the last month once again with familiar faces from Jack McConnell to Jim Murphy to George Galloway to Peter Kearney to assembled agenda led activists at BBC Scotland all on the attack.

If they were genuine in intent, they would recognise publicly the true ratio of sectarianism to Scottish Crime, the ratio of Anti Protestant and Anti Catholic crime, and recognise the real presence of sectarianism within the Celtic support, in the presence of support for the Sectarian Provisional IRA.

Only Alex Salmond can wade in to this, and offer a real picture, although the funding of the SNP may well hinder the chances of that.

Welcome to Scotland. One Country, Many Cultures. As long as the culture isn’t Protestant.

OpportunityKnox

Monday 16 May 2011

Celtic's Subliminal Support for the IRA

http://www.followfollow.com/news/tmnw/celtic_to_play_ira_anthem_677782/index.shtml

http://www.redaction.org/ireland/rebel_music.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ILYPFZIky8


Republican Gary Og plays this in front of an Irish Tricolour emblazened with the word "rebel". Yet, unbelievably, the response on some Celtic boards today was to deny that the song has any republican connection.

Celtic Football Club are sanctioning this subliminal support, in the hope less informed people don't know what they are doing. We do.

Saturday 14 May 2011

Social Divisions

http://www.scottishaffairs.org/backiss/pdfs/sa29/SA29_Bruce.pdf

Sectarianism in Scotland Preview

The book is previewed on Google Books, is essential, and can be bought at all good book shops

Sectarianism in Scotland

Scottish sectarianism? Let's lay this myth to rest

Professor Steve Bruce, writing recently in the Guardian

Scotland's disgrace is not religious bigotry. It is the unthinking way in which sectarianism is assumed, without evidence

In the runup to the Easter Sunday Old Firm game historical animosities between Celtic and Rangers supporters have been in the spotlight following the security threats against Celtic manager Neil Lennon, his lawyer Paul McBride and the former MSP Trish Godman. But those animosities should not be allowed to dominate or distort perceptions of the Scots, or of Scottish culture.
Most Scots are not football fans; most fans do not support Rangers or Celtic; most Rangers and Celtic fans are not religious bigots. That some Rangers and Celtic fans wind each other up by falsely claiming to have strong religio-ethnic identities which are offended by the equally false religio-ethnic identities of the other side is not a reason for the rest of us to take such ritual posturing as the basis for judging the polity, society and culture of an entire country.
The sectarianism of Scotland is a myth: popular in some places but a myth nonetheless. A major survey in 2001 in Glasgow showed that many people thought sectarianism discrimination in employment was common but that none had suffered it themselves – it was something they had heard had happened to others.
We are now able to test claims of labour market discrimination with a vast body of information because the 2001 census recorded people's current religion and religion of upbringing as well as data on jobs, education and income.
And the religious constituency with the poorest socio-economic profile? Not those raised as Catholics but those raised with "no religion". Why the children of the ungodly should be disadvantaged remain a mystery, but it is clear the census data offers no evidence for widespread anti-Catholic discrimination in the economy.
A second component of the sectarian myth is the violence that bigotry supposedly produces. Again, when surveyed many Glaswegians said that sectarian violence was commonplace but very few had personally experienced any.
The Glasgow survey asked respondents if they had been the victims of a variety of crimes in the previous five years. It found "no significant difference with regard to the level of crime experience by respondents who classified themselves as Catholic and those who classified themselves as belonging to a Protestant faith".
The few respondents who had been victimised were asked to guess why they had suffered: gender, country of origin and sexual orientation were cited as often as religion, and all of those came a very long way behind "the area where you live".
In total, less than 1% of those surveyed thought they had been victimised because of their religion and one of those seven individuals was non-Christian.
Myths thrive on naivety, carelessness and exaggeration. In a fine example of Chinese whispers, a report that claimed 11 Old Firm-related murders in 18 years was inflated by a spokesman for the anti-sectarian campaigning organisation Nil By Mouth into "Eight murders with a sectarian element in the last few years" and by a Church of Scotland committee into "11 Rangers and Celtic fans" in seven years.
Religious identity did not actually feature in any of the 11 homicides claimed in the original report, and the Old Firm football element was often trivial. For instance one drunk punched another (who subsequently died) for ruining his new football shirt. It could have been a Hearts or a Dunfermline shirt. It happened to be a Rangers top. Colleagues who looked closely at the cases concluded that at most, less than one third of 1% of Scots homicides over an 18-year period had any sort of sectarian element, and it was invariably football allegiance rather than religion or inherited ethic identity.
A large part of my research career has been taken up with Northern Ireland. I know what sectarianism looks like. When Irish migrants settled in large numbers at the end of the 19th and start of the 20th century, some Scots objected to what they feared was union-bashing cheap labour. Others objected to what they believed was a false and dangerous religion.
But Scotland never divided in the way Ireland did. It did not divide politically: the native Scots who worked with the Irish settlers and their children in the labour movement and in the Labour party always vastly outnumbered those who supported tiny and short-lived anti-Catholic parties.
Scotland never divided residentially: nowhere in Scotland displayed Belfast's pattern of residential segregation. And despite the Catholic church insisting on maintaining a separate school system, social mixing has always been common and, as interest in religion has declined, intermarriage has become commonplace. In Northern Ireland only about 6% of marriages are mixed but in the 1990s, just over half of Scots Catholics under 35 who were married had non-Catholic partners.
Scotland's disgrace is not religious bigotry. It is the unthinking way in which sectarianism is assumed. In 2004, on the Sunday after a heated Rangers-Celtic game, a Sunday tabloid newspaper ran a two-page story under the headline "Real toll of that Old Firm mayhem". One page was given over to a fire which severely damaged a Catholic church in Stornoway. The implication was clear: "Priest's church blaze agony" was caused by "Old Firm Mayhem". The boring truth, which merited just one column inch in a sister tabloid the following week, was that the fire was caused by an electrical fault.

Intimate Strangers: Political and Cultural Interaction Between Scotland and Ulster in Modern Times

This book review alone is worth reading.

http://www.scottishaffairs.org/backiss/pdfs/sa15/sa15_Bruce.pdf

Top academic slams sectarian 'scaremongers'

This is from the Scotsman, following the release of the book "Sectarianism in Scotland" by Professor Steve Bruce.

SCOTLAND is not a sectarian country and claims of significant conflict between Protestants and Catholics are simply "scaremongering", according to a leading academic.
In a new book, Sectarianism in Scotland, Professor Steve Bruce claims that the rate of sectarian murders has been grossly exaggerated and discrimination against Catholics in the workplace has all but disappeared.

Prof Bruce, from Aberdeen University, who wrote the book with three researchers, also claims that the group which appeared to be most discriminated against were atheists.

He added that he and the other academics decided to write the book because they got "fed up with people like James MacMillan, who is a great composer but a crap social scientist, going on about this based on their own limited experience and anecdotal evidence".

Mr MacMillan, who declined to comment when contacted by The Scotsman, caused controversy at the Edinburgh Festival five years ago when he argued that anti-Catholic bigotry was rife in Scotland. The debate has rumbled on ever since.

Prof Bruce, a sociologist who has worked extensively on religious issues in Northern Ireland and elsewhere, said: "Scotland is not sectarian, but there’s a lot of casual acceptance of stereotypes which leads people to hysterically inaccurate conclusions.

"If you sit back and dispassionately examine the evidence, you come to a very different conclusion.

"James MacMillan described it as Belfast without the guns and bombs, but it’s not. It’s more like New Zealand, Australia and America.

"Of Catholics under 35, 51 per cent are married to non-Catholics. Among the older generation, people over 65, almost all the Catholics are married to Catholics. But young people do not regard religion as an important consideration in choosing marriage partners."

Prof Bruce said survey evidence showed that half the Catholics in Glasgow believed discrimination in the workplace was commonplace, but only 1 per cent had actually experienced it. His team analysed information from the 2001 census, which contained information about religion and occupation, and other surveys to get an idea of whether being Catholic harmed someone’s employment prospects.

"What this information tells us is there is no significant difference in socio-economic status among young Catholics and Protestants," he said.

"The one group of people who keep showing up as getting a hard time are surprisingly the people with no religion. It’s a bit of a mystery to me. But whatever explains why some people do less well, it is not discrimination."

He said there was evidence of workplace discrimination against Catholics of 55 and over, representing previous attitudes, but not among the younger generation. The percentage of Catholics under 35 in "non-manual" jobs, such as managers, was 58 per cent compared to 63 per cent of their Church of Scotland peer group. But only 45 per cent of non-believers under-35 were in the same category.

Among 35- to 54-year-olds, 22 per cent of Catholics and 24 per cent of Presbyterians were in the top AB social class, compared to 19 per cent of atheists.

Prof Bruce also said some "astonishingly inaccurate figures" about the number of sectarian murders had become accepted as fact.

A murder study by Dr Elinor Kelly of Glasgow University identified 11 deaths as being reported as sectarian between 1984 and 2001.

Talking about the book, which is due out in May or June, Prof Bruce said: "One of the chapters is concerned with scaremongering about sectarian murders in Glasgow.

"The Church of Scotland’s Church and nation committee produced a report about how terrible sectarianism was which had some astonishingly inaccurate figures. Someone mistakenly reduced the period over which the 11 murders occurred to just seven years - more than doubling the apparent rate of sectarian killing.

"Finally, Nil By Mouth [an anti-sectarian campaign group], reading the same research, reduced the number of murders to eight but shortened the time-scale even further to just two years so that 3.4 per cent of murders were now sectarian."

Prof Bruce said he felt only six or seven of the murders could be described as sectarian - the fact that the attacker or victim was a Celtic or Rangers fan was simply "background noise" in some cases, not part of the motive.

Glasgow Celtic IRA

Yes, the Celtic support do sing IRA songs.This is not a myth, it's real, and here's the evidence.


Celtic Fans Shame Again

Celtic fans disgraced themselves once again last night at the Hearts versus Celtic match as they sang incessantly in support of the murderers of the IRA last night.

The songs were as follows:

1:44 – Ooh Ahh Up the RA

3:08 – Roll of Honour

6:03 – Off to join the IRA

10:04 – Ooh Ah Up the Ra

15:00 – Oh the wee huns are shite

38:45 – Get the Brits out now

44:00 – Oh ah Up the RA

53:00 - P, P, PIRA

55:00 – Never Defeat the IRA

58:00 – Jim Jeffries is a sad orange bastard

59:00 - Oh the wee huns are shite

64:00 - IRA All the way, **** the Queen and the UDA

66:00 – Off to join the IRA

72:00 – Michael Fagan Shagged the Queen

73:00 – Go home ya huns

87:00 - oh the wee huns are shite



This site joins others this morning in condemning this disgusting show of support for sectarianism and asks that the Scottish Government and the SFA take action.

Monday 9 May 2011

Cairde na hÉireann - Celebrating the Culture of Terrorism

This organisation recently hit the headlines when it is alleged they were sent a bomb in the post that was intercepted by Royal Mail. It allowed the Master propagandists of Sinn Fein to play the victim card.

I don't think the phantom bomber thought about that the day he or she decided to take the law in to their own hands. They'd have been best served simply publicising the true beliefs of this organisation.

In certain quarters in Scotland, not a million miles away from Cairde's home on the Gallowgate support for the IRA is justified as "political", or for the "old" IRA but not the Provos.


Cairde are not so shy about their leanings. They idolise modern day Provisional IRA Members.

Just last week they held a vigil in remembrance of IRA Hunger Striker Bobby Sands


http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cairde-na-hÉireann/156563904371613

On their Website they have a published structure including Republican Flute Bands named after former Provisional IRA Terrorists Martin Doherty and Sean McIlvenna, and include links to a site called h1981.net, which celebrates the "achievements" of the Hunger Strikers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_McIlvenna
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Doherty

Let's be clear here, this organisation is no cuddly group of craicsters wishing to push Irish culture in an oppressed land. This is an organisation that celebrates sectarian murder.

Commentary on Adams

Following is an article by former Irish Journalist of the Year Ed Moloney on his blog.
While much of the article is opinion, there are more than enough eye opening facts and commentary to bring this to your attention.

http://thebrokenelbow.com/2011/02/21/micheal-martin-gerry-adams-and-martin-mcguinness/

Sunday 8 May 2011

Pat Finucane - The Truth

Finucane should not have been killed - but he was in the IRA

Sean O’Callaghan 18/04/2003

The publication of Sir John Stevens's report into alleged collusion between security force members and loyalist terrorists in Northern Ireland appears to have shocked many decent people in Ireland and the United Kingdom That is, of course, more than understandable. There was always a great desire by many people to ignore the Northern Ireland "troubles".

The euphemistic quality of that word goes some way towards explaining the difficulties as we examine retrospectively what was in effect an undeclared war between the British state and Irish republican terrorists.

The IRA, of course, never had a difficulty in describing its campaign as war and it conducted it ferociously, while demanding loudly that its enemies operate within the rule of law. Maybe that's how it had to be, but I for one cannot help but feel angered at the sheer hypocrisy, the hand-wringing.

This was a war in all but name, often a secret, squalid war against a ferocious enemy that gleefully exploited every inevitable difficulty faced by democratic states in such bizarre and legally clouded circumstances.

How clever to be so wise, so lofty, when the great majority of the security forces carried out extraordinarily courageous work in the most dangerous of circumstances and, lest we forget, died in their hundreds to make these islands a safer and better place for all of us.


The murder of the Belfast solicitor Pat Finucane in February 1989 lay at the heart of the latest Stevens inquiry.

There certainly appears to be enough circumstantial evidence to show a degree of collusion in his murder, and documentation has been sent to the Director of Public Prosecutions in relation to this. 1989 was a grim year in Northern Ireland: 81 people were killed, 57 by republicans, 19 by loyalists and two by the security forces - one of them a loyalist shot by the security forces after he had murdered a Catholic in the republican Ardoyne area.

Twenty-six soldiers and nine policemen were murdered that year. Very few people were ever convicted and they will not be now; that is the brutal reality. The murder of Finucane, however, dominates the headlines and all the other disgusting acts scream out their silence, forgotten, it would seem, by all but close family. In death, Finucane has been wrapped in a halo. He inhabits a superior moral place, a finely honed weapon to wage war by other means against the British state and the Unionist people of Northern Ireland.

I knew Pat Finucane reasonably well. I first met him in 1980 at a high-level IRA finance meeting in Letterkenny, Co Donegal. The meeting took place in a private room above a public house. Also present were Gerry Adams, the now-dead Tom Cahill, Pat Doherty (now the MP for West Tyrone) and several others.

Adams and Finucane arrived together in the morning and left at lunchtime. Did Finucane introduce himself as a member of the IRA? No. Did anyone present describe him as such? No. It was, however, exclusively an IRA meeting and quite clearly, without doubt, understood to be so by all present. That is the evidence of my own eyes and ears and I stand by it today as I did yesterday and as I will tomorrow.

Of course Finucane should not have been murdered, and if it is proved that anyone played a role in that murder they should pay the price. But he was not the blameless, innocent "human rights" lawyer beloved of nationalist Ireland and the quasi-liberal chattering classes in the United Kingdom.

He came to visit me several times in Crumlin Road prison in Belfast, where he spent much of his working life acting as a trusted conduit between the IRA prisoners and the leadership on the outside. Finucane wanted to represent me, but expressed no interest in my legal position. All he wanted to know was what I had told the police, and there is no doubt in my mind as an individual that he was acting as an IRA member and exploiting his own legal position for the benefit of that organisation.

When an IRA member was arrested, the first person to gain access to him was usually a solicitor. The organisation on the outside was often desperate to discover if the prisoner had made any statements incriminating himself or others, had provided information on arms dumps or future IRA operations or even had been turned by the security forces.

This was where an individual solicitor such as Finucane was invaluable to the organisation. He was different to many other lawyers who held strong political views. The renowned Belfast solicitor Paddy McCrory was undoubtedly a staunch republican, but he was a constitutionalist who demanded the highest standards from the state and never believed that the law was a weapon to be exploited by a terrorist organisation.

Pat Finucane was first and foremost an IRA volunteer, and he exploited his position ruthlessly to wage his war on the state. In Crumlin Road, I once explained to him that I had admitted the attempted murder of a UVF member from Portadown and went into some detail.

When I finished he looked at me with contempt on his face: "And after all that, you missed him." Hardly what you would expect to hear from a peace-loving man who believed in the primacy of law. The last occasion I met him was in Crumlin Road about 27 hours before he was murdered: I was, in fact, the last prisoner he spoke to.

Pat Finucane was an effective agent for the IRA. Who knows what "punishments" were exacted by the IRA as a result of his activities? Finucane did end up being murdered, but not because being a member of the IRA was immediately punishable by murder or execution - unlike being a member of the RUC , the Army, the judiciary, a civilian worker at a security force base or an agent for the state.

Strange old "troubles"; a very strange "dirty war". To anybody who has involved himself in Northern Ireland, none of this should come as any surprise. How Pat Finucane would laugh at his continuing effectiveness.

FACTS - The IRA ARE Sectarian

Following is an extract from an interview in the National Review with former IRA chief Sean O'Callaghan.
While some key quotes are highlighted, I'd advise that you read ALL of this.

Cover Story, National Review,  Jan 27, 1997
by Sean O'Callaghan


A former terrorist describes his life in the IRA, and looks at the current peace negotiations through the prism of what he learned in his old life.

I WAS born in 1954 in Tralee, County Kerry, in the Irish Republic. It was and still is an area with a strong republican tradition. After the treaty and the formation of the Irish Free State in 1922 the IRA and the new Free State Army fought a bitter civil war. That war was conducted with great savagery in Kerry. Less than three miles from my parents' house, eight IRA prisoners were blown to pieces by government forces in an officially sanctioned reprisal for the earlier IRA murder of a Free State Army officer.

Civil war bitterness was still very much alive in parts of Kerry in the 1950s. My father's side of the family was steeped in that tradition. He and his brother, active IRA men, were interned without trial in the Curragh military camp in the early 1940s. My father, several aunts, and other family members have remained lifelong activists and supporters of the republican movement. That was the tradition and the family background into which I was born.

We were an ordinary working class family. We stood out in no regard other than that my father was a member of a small, essentially secret organization which still harboured dreams of a 32-county republic. They believed that such a republic would only come about by armed force. Occasionally I came across guns, and once explosives, hidden in the house. Sometimes there were meetings in the house or in my grandmother's. We were always sent somewhere else when anything of that nature was taking place but we had at least a vague idea that something exciting or dangerous was happening. We knew that nothing of this was ever to be repeated to our friends.

Like the great mass of Irish people I was educated in my early years at school by nuns and Christian Brothers. The Brothers had a fierce nationalist ethos. They saw themselves as the moral guardians of nationalist Ireland. It was a world of Gaelic games, the Irish language, and endless songs and stories about noble Irish patriots and treacherous English. The treachery of the English was at the root of all of Ireland's ills.

The 1916 rebellion was celebrated with great gusto in 1966, when I was 12 years old. RTE [Radio Telefis Eireann] television indulged in an orgy of adulation. Schools had special screenings of films on the rising. We played mock games of Irish versus the British. I always wanted to be James Connolly, the republican socialist executed by the British after the surrender of the rebels. Less than two years after these celebrations the civil-rights movement in Northern Ireland burst onto our television screens. In reality we understood little about the issues, but our sympathies were firmly with the Catholics in Northern Ireland. When sectarian violence broke out in Belfast in 1969 there was a huge outpouring of emotion in the Republic. Soon Catholic refugees were being billeted in local houses, church property, and the army barracks.

The IRA split, and the Provisional IRA was formed: an event which I now regard as the greatest tragedy in modern Irish history. That was not how I felt at the time, of course. I was 15 years old in 1970 and could not wait to enlist. My political views were certainly to the left of the leadership of the Provisional movement. Some of the overt militarism, bordering on fascism, did worry me. I saw the Provisionals as rather like a popular front which would sweep away partition and the British presence. We would then have a realignment of the Left in Irish politics. After that it was full steam down the road to the socialist republic. There you have the sum total of the political literacy of a 15-year-old would-be Irish revolutionary.

Like most others of my age in the Republic I knew nothing of Protestants or unionists other than that they were known as the Ascendancy. They stole the land from the Catholics and persecuted them. The Protestant working class in Northern Ireland were simply dupes of the unionist ruling classes and the British government. Our naivete and ignorance was incredible. We would throw the British out and then the poor stupid prods would see the error of their ways and join us in a new utopian Ireland. In truth we gave little or no consideration to the question of what to do with Protestants. We were ready to fight against the British just like our forefathers. This time we would finish the business. British rule in Ireland would end for all time.

I joined the IRA in Tralee. My family background was such that I had little difficulty in joining -- it was positively expected. It was not long before young IRA recruits in Northern Ireland were coming to Kerry for training in the use of weapons and explosives. Even though I was very young I found myself actively involved in this part of IRA activity. Needless to say, school appeared pretty boring by comparison and I soon lost interest in it.

The IRA recruits from Northern Ireland were in the main ordinary young men such as you would find in any British city, town, or rural area. They wore the same clothes, listened to the same music, and followed the same soccer clubs. They were more likely to spend their time arguing about the merits of Manchester United or Liverpool than politics. That came later, after exposure to the Provisional ideologues in Long Kesh and other prisons.

They saw their duty as protecting their areas -- Catholic ghettos in Belfast and Derry -- from attack by Protestants. The Provisional IRA was forged out of inter-communal sectarian warfare. The vast majority of the recruits had no coherent political outlook. They mainly despised politics. Youthful fascination with guns and bombs and a desire to get even with prods: that was their motivation. Ill-educated, ill-equipped, they were easy meat for the simple answer. The hard leadership of the Provisional IRA, mainly older men who had waited all their lives for the opportunity, gave them the guns and told them the Brits and unionists were to blame for all their problems.

The IRA gave these young men a sense of belonging, status in their community, and a purpose, a cause to believe in and to fight and die for. These were young men without much hope of employment who had seen their communities devastated in sectarian attacks. Now that they were hitting back their pride and dignity was restored. It would be utterly wrong to see these young men universally as lurid, evil psychopaths. That they carried out the most awful acts of violence is beyond question. But the real blame lies with their leadership: the old republican/nationalists who instilled discipline, obedience, and a reverence for republican structures and traditions that allowed young men to kill even former friends for minor transgressions of the republican code.

On April 20, 1972, I was preparing bomb equipment for a training camp due to begin within days. In the shed where I had been working seconds before, there was a major explosion. I escaped from the blast with just a few cuts and minor bruises but I was arrested and charged with possession of explosives. While I was on remand in Limerick prison the Dublin government introduced the non-jury special criminal court which sentenced me to six months. That was the sort of sentence IRA prisoners could expect in those days: there was still a lot of sympathy in the Republic. The British Embassy had been burned down in Dublin following Bloody Sunday in Derry.

When I was released I settled back into the same routine. One IRA meeting in Kerry in that period sticks in my mind. It was attended by a Dominican priest who came from Northern Ireland. There were perhaps thirty people present. The priest told us that British soldiers were raping Catholic women in Belfast. I did not really believe him, reasoning that if such activity was common the huge media circus then covering Northern Ireland could not miss it. Such pep talks hyped up the hate and allowed people to excuse the most awful atrocities committed by their own side.

In June 1973 I was sent to Donegal to work in an IRA bomb factory. The idea was for me to get experience and then train others so that more such factories could be set up further south. Like most IRA schemes in those days it never quite came to full fruition. I was soon back in Kerry but this time I was working for IRA General Headquarters Staff, running a training camp. Many IRA men who later became well-known figures passed through that camp. Some are dead, others are in jail, others, I suppose, have long since left the IRA.


In May 1974 I was sent to the Mid Ulster Brigade of the IRA. On May 2, along with up to forty IRA men from the East Tyrone Brigade, I took part in an attack on an army/UDR [Ulster Defense Regiment] base at the Deanery in Clogher, County Tyrone. There was a heavy gun battle which lasted up to twenty minutes before we withdrew. We made our way to safe houses over the border in Monaghan. It was not until we listened to the early morning radio news that we heard that a UDR Greenfinch named Eva Martin had been killed. It would be wrong to say that any of us were disappointed at the news.

I stayed in Tyrone until August of 1975. During that period I took part in about seventy attacks, mainly against members of the security forces. In one of those attacks, I along with two others murdered a detective inspector in the RUC [Royal Ulster Constabulary] special branch called Peter Flanagan. We shot him dead in a public house in Omagh, County Tyrone. The two people who carried out this murder with me were both younger than me. Both were from Belfast. The driver was little more than a young girl. The other was 17 years old and had escaped from youth custody in Belfast while charged with murdering a soldier. He was arrested in 1975 and charged with attempted murder. He was sentenced to life imprisonment and is still in custody today. He was transferred to Northern Ireland and will probably be released in the next year or so. He has never been charged with the murder which he committed with me.

BY the time that I murdered Flanagan doubts were already forming in my mind about the real nature of the Provisional IRA. IRA volunteers in Tyrone were on the whole far more sectarian than I was or ever could be. Their Catholicism was of a virulent and hate-filled brand. It is, in retrospect, hard to see how it could have been otherwise. Militant Irish nationalism and Irish Catholicism have a deep and complex relationship, nowhere more so than in rural areas of Northern Ireland like Tyrone, Fermanagh, and Armagh.

During this period I was involved in recruiting new IRA volunteers. One of our main safe houses was a parochial house outside Omagh. Sometimes we used that house to initiate new members. Imagine the effect on a young uneducated country lad brought to his parochial house under cover of darkness to be inducted into the IRA. Try telling him that the Church was not on his side. One of the local priests usually called on another house in that area where I and other IRA men often stayed. He took great delight in asking us to relate our latest escapades. He was also forever passing on information about local Protestants: usually members or ex-members of the UDR or RUC. At least one of these was later murdered by the Provisional IRA.

This was, in reality, a war against Protestants. There was a deep, ugly hatred, centuries old, behind all of this. The prods had the better farms, the better jobs that belonged by right to the Catholics, and they wanted them. If I wanted to attack a British army patrol or barracks, the local Provos wanted to shoot a part-time UDR or police reservist. They wanted to murder their neighbors. They wanted to drive the Protestants off the land and reclaim what they believed was their birthright. Gradually the reality was getting through to me. This was no romantic struggle against British imperialism but a squalid sectarian war directed against the Protestant people of Northern Ireland.

In March or April of 1975, I was in a flat in Monaghan town. The flat was a base for IRA men from the East Tyrone Brigade. That evening there were perhaps eight people, all full-time IRA activists, all on the run from Northern Ireland. I was making tea when a news item on the television about the death of an RUC woman in a bomb explosion was greeted with, "I hope she's pregnant and we get two for the price of one."

I felt utterly sickened and revolted. More so even when I realized who had spoken -- a Tyrone man who was second in command of the Provisional IRA and a man I held in the highest regard; a man to whom I had thought seriously about addressing my doubts and fears. I went to another room where I just wanted to cry my eyes out. That man later became the chief of staff of the Provisional IRA. He was chief of staff when the present peace process began. Small wonder that I have serious doubts about the Provisional IRA's commitment to peace.

Shortly afterward I went home to Tralee and resigned quietly from the IRA. I just cited personal reasons. People probably thought I was just tired and needed a break. I was not yet 21. Shortly after, I went to London where I started an office and industrial cleaning business and got married. I kept in touch with events in Ireland and wondered what to do, if anything, about what I had been involved in.

THE hatred of informers is burned so deep in the Irish nationalist psyche as to be almost incomprehensible to people not from that tradition. Informers had always betrayed the Irish. Whenever the Irish plotted a rebellion, the English had an informer to warn them. In my family the postman was regarded as a potential police informer. The fear, hatred, and loathing is impossible to explain. Yet that is what I decided to become, and I am glad I did.

My wife and I moved to Ireland in 1979 and I quickly rejoined the IRA. As soon as I had done so I contacted a detective whom I knew to be efficient, tight-mouthed, and opposed politically and morally to the Provisional IRA. I worked with him for six years. It was a time of often frantic activity for me and there were few areas of Sinn Fein or IRA activity that I did not gain access to in those years.

We had many successes against the IRA in that period. Some I can mention now, others have to wait for another day. My work brought me into contact with almost every IRA department and most republican leaders. We broke up and captured IRA training camps, foiled many IRA operations. One was a plot to kill the Prince and Princess of Wales at a charity concert in the Dominion Theatre in the West End of London during the British general election in 1983. It was also intended that I should plant 16 small bombs on beaches. This was based on a similar type of operation carried out by the Basque separatist group ETA on Spanish beaches.

The plot to murder the prince and princess was intended as retaliation for the deaths of the hunger strikers of 1981. I was to place a bomb containing roughly twenty pounds of frangex in the toilet at the rear of the royal box. I went into the theater and knew the plan was feasible. Buried behind tiles and equipped with a 32-day delay timer it would have killed or injured anybody in the immediate area. The Garda officer that I worked with came secretly to Liverpool to see me. We devised a plan which we hoped would foil the attacks and allow me to avoid IRA suspicion and continue to work against them.

A couple of evenings later Scotland Yard called a late night news conference. Knowing that it was to take place I left England and went to France the day before. Commander William Hucklesby, then in charge of the anti-terrorist squad, named me and said that I was part of an IRA team ready to kill a prominent politician in the run-up to the election.

In such a manner the attack was averted and I was able to return to Ireland, reputation enhanced, having escaped the clutches of the enemy. There was so much activity in that period that I can only give a general account here. Another event should serve to give some idea of the damage done to the IRA in this period. In 1984 the Provisional IRA invested a lot of time and money in America. They conspired with a gang of drug smugglers, pimps, and loan sharks from the Boston area to assemble a large quantity of weapons and smuggle them to Ireland. They spent about $2 million putting the shipment of some seven tons of arms, ammunition and explosives together. In September a trawler called the Valhalla sailed from the Boston area heading for Ireland. On board, along with some of the Boston gang, was a former U.S. Marine and now IRA volunteer.

Waiting for the Valhalla off the Kerry coast in an area known as the porcupine bank was a smaller Kerry-based trawler called the Marita Ann. I kept the Garda informed of every detail about the operation. After the weapons were loaded onto the Marita Ann, an operation mostly overseen by an RAF Nimrod, it headed for the Kerry coast. It was ambushed by an Irish navy frigate with Garda officers on board. All the weapons were recovered, and the crew captured. On board was one of the most senior men in the IRA. Also there was the Marine, who had come with the Valhalla. Its crew were later arrested in America, along with other members of the gang who had conspired to gather the weapons.

I WAS particularly pleased to have played a major part in foiling such a dangerous IRA plot. Irish-American romantic views of Ireland have contributed greatly to the Provisional IRA's capacity to murder. I was glad that this time their bloody and ill-considered plans had come to nothing.

By 1985 I was responsible for the IRA in the south of Ireland. That meant that I was a member of the IRA's GHQ staff, the grouping that runs the IRA on a daily basis. This brought me into daily contact with many of the IRA leadership. I was familiar with most aspects of IRA activity, finance, engineering, training, and the England department in particular. I also met the chief of staff almost weekly. He was the man from County Tyrone who had hoped the dead policewoman was pregnant.

I was also a member of the Sinn Fein national executive. That brought me into regular contact with people such as Gerry Adams, Martin McGuinness, and Pat Doherty. It is interesting now to recall my impressions of those national executive meetings and the personalities so prominent in the present peace process. Everybody knew nothing of any real importance would be decided at those meetings. Sinn Fein is not like normal democratic parties. The decisions that matter are taken elsewhere, by the IRA army council.

What struck me most of all was the degree of control exercised at those meetings by Adams and McGuinness. The level of political debate was very poor. Imagine a group of student Trots addicted to romantic nationalism and the whole thing glued together by the most awful elitism. I sometimes wondered what the reaction of Labour MPs and supporters in Britain -- who seemed to see the Provisionals as akin to the ANC -- would have been to the awful drivel that passed for political debate among the republican leadership behind closed doors.

Early in 1981, my wife and I separated. We remained good friends and divorced amicably in 1987. In late 1981 I met and fell in love with an English woman who lived in Kerry. Our daughter was born in June 1985, one week after I was elected as a Sinn Fein local councilor in Tralee. Later that year it became obvious that I was being viewed with a certain amount of suspicion by some local republicans. I took a backward step but realized that sooner rather than later I was going to have to answer some very difficult questions: my girlfriend also. Being English was not going to help her.

I decided that it was time to move. We left Ireland in November of that year and stayed in England over Christmas. I was introduced by the Metropolitan police to MI-5 in London in January, and moved at their request to Holland. My girlfriend and daughter joined me a couple of weeks later. I met the MI-5 for regular debriefing sessions until September 1986, and we returned to England in November of that year.

Two years later I walked into Tunbridge Wells police station in Kent and admitted my involvement in the two murders committed in Northern Ireland in 1974. Two RUC officers came to the station the next day and I returned to Northern Ireland with them that evening.

My reasons for giving myself up were fairly straightforward. I wanted to give evidence against the IRA leadership in both Northern Ireland and the Irish Republic. I had no doubt that had I been allowed to I could have crippled the IRA's capacity to murder people. It quickly became apparent to me, if not to the RUC officers dealing with the case, that I was never going to be allowed to give evidence. I can only speculate as to the reasons. In May 1990 I pleaded guilty at Belfast Crown Court to the two murders and sixty or so related terrorist attacks which I had carried out in Tyrone in 1974 - 75. I was sentenced to life imprisonment plus five hundred or so years in total. I am now in Maghaberry prison in Northern Ireland where I am held in a special unit set aside for people at serious risk from paramilitary organizations. I am not allowed to write or speak publicly in any detail about this, or indeed about my time in prison in general. Were I to do so it is possible that I would not be allowed to write publicly again while in prison.

I now spend my time writing, which is what I have always wanted to do. While working against the IRA it was not possible for me to say or write what I wanted to or read the books I wanted to read --that was a hard part of it, spending all my time in the company of people I either disliked or loathed. I am working on some poetry, some short stories, and a novel, which I hope will shed some light on the real nature of extreme Irish nationalism. I am also working on a book about my time in the IRA.

For now, I am frightened about the peace process, about where it is taking us. I spend my time explaining to people prepared to listen just what it is that the Provisional IRA are up to. Provisionalism is nothing more than extreme nationalism, an ugly creation that will not be appeased. The real target is Irish nationalism, north and south of the border. I remember the days when the Provisional leadership seriously discussed killing John Hume [leader of the Social Democratic and Labour Party], regarding him and the SDLP as the only thing stopping their domination of Northern nationalists.

They are a little more sophisticated now. They will kill him instead with kindness and soft words of ceasefire and compromises. They intend to poison Irish nationalism until no compromise with unionists is possible. They want to be the conscience of Irish nationalism, forcing nationalists to move further to the extreme to keep the nationalist consensus alive. People in Britain would do well to remember these words: far from being a democratic socialist organization, the Provisionals are a collection of extreme nationalists, neo-Stalinists, and thinly disguised fascists. What holds them together is hatred of the British and unionists.

Gerry Adams's concept of a pan-nationalist front is the most dangerous strategy ever devised by the Provisionals and has within it the potential for violence on a scale at least as bad as anything that has gone before. We are far from peace and far away from any solution to the problems of Northern Ireland.

Instead of moving forward we are moving back into tribalism. The Provisionals have no intention of compromising with unionists. They see the problem as the unionist problem. They want to use a nationalist alliance to force the British government to abandon unionists. Then they can be dealt with. I wish I could be confident about the future, but I have sat behind too many closed doors with too many of the present leadership to be fooled by the smooth presentation.

I would like to finish by paying tribute to Conor Cruise O'Brien. When I found myself questioning my deeply held beliefs in the mid 1970s, I did not have the intellectual capacity to formulate my thoughts clearly. His speeches and his writings were giving form to my questions. Without his unknowing help I could never have pulled myself away from the fundamentalist slime. He is also surely the bravest intellectual in the history of the Irish Republic. Agree or disagree with him, his courage can surely not be questioned.

Today I am neither nationalist nor unionist. They are essentially tribal terms and I want no part of tribalism. I am concerned that people should be allowed to make their choices free from fear and aggression. Therefore I am for peace and against pan-nationalism

Friday 6 May 2011

FACTS - Beware the Myths that tarnish "sectarian" Scots

FACTS on Sectarianism by Professor Steve Bruce

http://thescotsman.s...fm?id=171622005

Beware myths that tarnish 'sectarian' Scots
STEVE BRUCE

TWENTY years ago, I published the first serious social-science study of
sectarianism in Scotland, called "No Pope of Rome". Last year, with three
colleagues, I returned to the subject. We devoted much effort to measuring
every index of religious disadvantage, discrimination, difference and
conflict in Scotland. We looked at economic position, educational
qualifications, access to higher education, political power, voting
patterns, legal rights, residential segregation and sectarian violence and
came to the conclusion that the best parallel for the experience of the
Irish Catholic community in Scotland was not the enduring conflict of
Northern Ireland but the successful integration found in the United States.

I offer two items from a large array of data to support this optimistic
view.

First, social class: disadvantage is not itself proof of discrimination,
but the link works in reverse - if Catholics are victimised in schooling
and employment, they should have a lower class profile. What the 2001
Census shows is that there is now little difference between those raised as
Catholics and those raised as Protestants. The group with the worst class
profile is that of those raised with no religion (and, no, we have no idea
why either).

Second, integration: just over half of married Catholics under 35 have
non-Catholic spouses. In Northern Ireland, only 6 per cent of marriages are
mixed. In the US, inter-racial marriages are also about 6 per cent. Despite
segregated schooling, Scots now choose partners with no regard for
religion.

Yet, the perception is different. In a recent Glasgow survey, 53 per cent
said they thought employment discrimination was common, but only 1 per cent
said they had suffered any (and half of those were not Catholic).

One explanation for this paradox may be mistaken baseline expectations. One
person said her firm discriminated against Catholics because only three out
of ten people were Catholic. Because we talk about the Catholic Church and
the Kirk, Catholic schools and state schools, and Rangers and Celtic as
matching pairs, it is possible to suppose that half of Glaswegians are
Catholic and, hence, only three Catholics in ten people needs explaining.
Actually, three in ten is a slight over-representation, because Catholics
make up only 25 per cent of lowlands Scots.

We see the same paradox with violence. Two-thirds of the Glasgow survey
said sectarian violence was common or very common, but less than 1 per cent
had suffered any. When those who had suffered various forms of abuse were
asked the reasons, it turned out that most violence was domestic.
Residential area was much more commonly cited than religion, as were gender
and sexuality. So, again, we have a mismatch. People think something is
widespread but somehow they have not experienced it.

This is what I mean by a social myth. How do we explain it? A large part of
the answer is that opinion-leaders such as politicians and the mass media
believe that sectarianism is a major problem and that belief distorts their
perceptions.

I will cite just two examples. Since June 2003, it has been possible for a
criminal offence to be "aggravated" by religious prejudice. A mugger can
now be hit with a second charge if he calls his victim "a Proddie b******".
Last November, the Crown Office and the Procurator Fiscal Service released
their analysis of the first six months of the new system. The Daily
Telegraph was typical in leading with "Catholics are twice as likely as
Protestants to be the targets of sectarian abuse". What was not stressed in
the reporting was that, in more than 90 per cent of cases, the original
offence was breach of the peace, not murder, robbery or assault. More than
a third of the victims were police officers, not civilians, and more than
half the perpetrators were drunk. More than a third of cases were
associated with football matches or Orange marches. And the sectarian abuse
was verbal.

This is not Nazis wrecking Jewish shops: it is young drunks ranting at
coppers and others who get in the way of their inalienable right to get
drunk and disorderly.

What was striking about this episode was that the Crown Office (aided by
uncritical reporting) created an entirely false impression of Catholics as
victims. The perpetrators do not know the religion of their victims and nor
do we. What we know is the content of the verbal abuse. It tells us about
the identity of the abuser, not the abused. Two-thirds of the perpetrators
expressed anti-Catholic sentiments; one-third expressed anti-Protestant
sentiments. If the drunken hooligans of Glasgow divide two-thirds
Protestant and one-third Catholic, that is about par for the area.
Incivility is evenly distributed.

Second case: last November, the Sunday Mail reported the burning down of a
Catholic chapel in Stornoway under the banner headline "Real toll of Old
Firm mayhem". The police later announced that the fire was caused by an
electrical fault and that no crime was suspected, but that fact did not get
the banner-headline treatment. Thus are myths sustained.

• Steve Bruce is professor of sociology at Aberdeen University.

The Celtic Songbook Part 1

Below are some videos of Celtic supporters surprising anyone naive enough to believe the propaganda that they do not indulge in Sectarianism.

Thanks to Ross for the research.


Ladies and Gentlemen, I can now present you with Celtic Football Club and "The Greatest Fans In The World". Fans that are renowned for their hatred of all things British, Protestant, Royal and Loyal. Over the last few years Rangers' songs and chants have been discriminated from all walks of life. This despite our closest rivals continually being praised for their behaviour and hideous song choices. Don't be fooled here folks: every week throughout the country glorification of named terrorists and the groups they belonged too are sung with gusto and hatred - but not for much longer.


Allow me to introduce to you, "The Celtic Song Book"


Celtic Symphony


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN7jTXmRuBQ

The lyrics are shown below;

It was far across the sea,
When the devil got a hold of me,
He wouldnt set me free,
So he kept me soul for ransom.

Chorus 1
na na na na na na na na na
na na na na na na na na.

I'm a sailor man from Glasgow town,
I've roamed this world round and round,
Hes the meanest thing that I have found,
In all mydays of wander.

Chorus 1

But I could see his evil eyes,
Twas then he took me by surprise,
Take me to your paradise,
I want to see the Jungle.

Chorus 1

Chorus 2
Here we go again,
We're on the road again,
We're on the road again,
We're on our way to Paradise,
We love the jungilty,
That's where the lion sleeps, (yeeeaaaaahhhh)
For in those evil eyes,
They have no place in Paradise.

Chorus 3
Grafitti on the walls just as the sun was going down,
I seen graffitti on the walls( Of the CELTS, Of the CELTS),
Graffitti on the walls that says we're Magic, We're Magic,
Graffiti on the walls.......Graffiti on the walls........
And it said..............
Ooh ah up the Ra, say ooh ah up the Ra (x6).




It doesn't take a genius to see the glorification of the IRA in this song.






Roll Of Honour




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfhXbDtlpI8


The lyrics are shown below;


Read the roll of honour for Ireland's bravest men
We must be united in memory of the ten,
England you're a monster, don't think that you have won
We will never be defeated while Ireland has such sons.



This is a favourite among TGFITW, and is aired every away game without fail. The song commemorates the participants in the 1981 Irish hunger strike, which praises the 10 IRA volunteers.


Boys Of The Old Brigade

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrjM9zPAEFY


The lyrics are shown below;

Oh, son, I see in mem’ry's view
A far off distant day
When being just a lad like you
I joined the IRA.

Where are the lads that stood with me
When history was made?
A Ghra Mo Chroi, I long to see
The boys of the old brigade.



Another favourite among the Celtic fans that's lyrics says it all.




Roamin In The Gloamin'



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DyDDpYpnZg


The lyrics are shown below;


Roamin in the Gloamin with a shamrock in my hand,
Roamin in the Gloamin with St Patrick's fenian band.
And when the music stops, fuck King Billy and John Knox,
OH its great to be a Roman Catholic.


Again, the sectarian lyrics are clear to see.




The Fields Of Athenry


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_pIrRM3ww8


Low lie the Fields of Athenry,
Where once we watched the small free birds fly.
(ooh baby let the free birds fly)
Our love was on the wing,
(Sinn Féin)
We had dreams and songs to sing,
(The I.R.A.)
It's so lonely 'round the Fields of Athenry.




Glasgow Celtic IRA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRgErZEAjMo



PI, PI, PIRA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XxuILItL4k




Mike McCurry, We Know Your A H**


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKZZ-6-LWsU





Go Home Ya h***



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHsliBaff1w